Jul. 18th, 2020

joreth: (::headdesk::)
www.quora.com/Can-you-please-reply-with-a-good-white-magic-spell-to-get-hot-sex/answer/Joreth-Innkeeper

Q. What is a good white magic spell to do to get sex?

A. Even if magic did exist (which it doesn’t), using it “to get sex” would be violating another person’s agency.

Which is rape.

There is nothing “good” or “white” about making someone have sex against their will, regardless of the tool or method.

Learn how to actually talk to people and find people who might want to have sex with you. It might be a slower process, but it’s the only one that will work and the only one that doesn’t make you a creepy rapey creeper.
joreth: (boxed in)
www.quora.com/Has-someone-ever-left-you-midway-in-a-relationship-without-even-explaining/answer/Joreth-Innkeeper

Q. Has someone ever left you midway in a relationship without even explaining?

A. How do you leave a relationship “midway”? Isn’t leaving pretty much the definition of the end, not the middle?

But if you mean, has someone ever surprised me by ending a relationship with me when I thought the relationship was going well or at least not at the point of ending it, and didn’t explain to me why they were leaving, yes. Several times. It’s called “ghosting”.

When two people go through a painful breakup that both are aware is a breakup, and one of them chooses to cut off contact with the other after the breakup, that’s not ghosting. Ghosting is when one person chooses to end a relationship when the other person has no indication that the relationship was problematic enough to make the other person want to leave, and the person doing the ghosting cuts off all contact and leaves no explanation. I have 4 examples I’ll talk about, but they’re not the only examples in my life.

The clearest example I have of someone doing that to me was when I had just started dating someone. We had been dating for only a few weeks, but he had already started saying that he loved me. He called me one night to say that there was a death in his family and he needed to go out of town (only a few hours away) to handle things. He would be back in a few days. His last words to me were “I love you baby, and I can’t wait to see you again.”

This was back in the MySpace days, where blocking people wasn’t an option and their profile showed anyone who visited when they last logged in. So I could tell that he was regularly logging into his MySpace, so he wasn’t lying dead in a ditch somewhere halfway between my town and his family’s town where the funeral was.

Eventually, I camped out in front of his house and waited for several hours for him to come home from work. When he did, I confronted him. He gave me all kinds of bullshit excuses and promised we could work things out. I left that night knowing that I would never hear from him again, and I didn’t. I still don’t know why he did it.

I wasn’t asking him to get back together, I asked him why he would say what he said and then disappear. He tried to give excuses for why he hadn’t contacted me, but they were obvious as he was saying them that they were excuses. So I let him say them and I let him give me more false promises to call me and “work things out”, and I just left.

Another time, I met a guy who was quite a few years younger than I was, but he developed a crush on me. I figured, why not? We opted for an FWB relationship, but he kept having these intimate, vulnerable talks with me after our booty calls, so I developed feelings for him. He seemed to have feelings for me too.

Then he stopped responding to my calls. Just dropped off the face of the earth. Nobody seemed to know where he went, at least, that’s what people said to me.

Nearly 10 years later, he messaged me out of the blue. Still a little hurt, but hey, 10 years is 10 years, I answered. He wanted to talk on the phone, so we did. He said something about being young and immature and having family issues that overwhelmed him so he moved out of state to escape everyone. But since then, some shit had gone down that made him grow up fast. Now he was back in the area and he wanted to be friends again.

He started calling me while working his night job, and I would often fall asleep on the phone from talking for hours at a time. Eventually, he came to see me and talked about trying a real relationship with me, not just the FWB we had before. I expressed my doubts that he could do it, but he insisted he could. He also wanted to explore some kink with me, knowing that I was experienced and he had none.

We had one make-out session, which I ended by saying we really needed to discuss what kind of relationship we were going to have and what he wanted from a kink relationship with me. He said he was really excited about exploring something, but he didn’t even know where to start. So I suggested we go to a local kink club and a regional conference where he could be exposed to a variety of options and other people who might have some ideas or suggestions.

He sounded excited about that. We made plans to go, which he canceled on. And then he never responded to another text or phone call or online message again. So he ghosted me twice.

About 3 or 4 years later, he re-friended me on Facebook. I accepted the friend request but I didn’t message him. A few months after that, he sent me a message apologizing for disappearing, saying family shit overwhelmed him and he had to escape so he moved to another state. I said something like “huh, imagine that?” He asked what that meant and I said that was the same thing he said last time he ghosted me. He said something about his life being kinda dramatic. That’s the last thing we said, over a year ago.

The most recent example was someone else who did it to me twice. Many, many years ago, we met and had this amazing chemistry that he seemed to fight. But then one day he came over and said he was done fighting, we should be together. Then, literally in the middle of having sex, he got up, said he couldn’t do this, and left, half-dressed. He didn’t return any of my phone calls and the one friend of his who I knew would only say that he “moved to Texas” (he didn’t, as I found out later).

A few years later, we ran into each other again. It was awkward and uncomfortable and I got out of the encounter as quickly as I could. A couple years later we ran into each other again. It was slightly less awkward, but he apologized and said he was immature and frightened and didn’t know how to handle it. He wanted to be friends again.

Dubious, I gave him my number. We didn’t really keep in touch much. I invited him to a handful of social events, he would never go, I stopped inviting him.

Then, a few years after that, one day I just decided to invite him to something because I was inviting *everyone* in my address book. That thing he attended. So I invited him to another thing. He attended. Suddenly, we were talking to each other. After some very intense conversations, I decided that 10 years was enough for him to have grown up, to feel real remorse, and to be ready to try again.

So we did. This time, things were going well. We got along great with each other. We were open and intimate with each other. We both happened to suffer from a depressive episode at about the same time (unrelated to our relationship) and we were instrumental in each other’s recovery.

3.5 years into our second try, he started getting “busy”. When he used to spend 2 long weekends a month with me and constantly text me throughout the days apart, we very slowly started seeing each other less and less. I brought it up, he promised he was “working on it”, nothing would change, I’d bring it up again, he promised things were “getting better”, nothing would change, rinse, repeat.

Almost exactly a year after I noticed and started commenting on the problem, we had a Talk about it. I told him it was not acceptable to me anymore that he go 3 or 4 months without us seeing each other, given that we only lived a few miles apart. Since spending several days at a time seemed to be so taxing for him I offered him the option of one date night a month where it was focused time together. He turned that down and opted instead for our regular “weekends” together.

We never had another weekend together. Almost overnight, he stopped responding to texts, phone calls, and online messages. Finally, one day, I had been having things shipped to his house because things got stolen off my porch in my neighborhood and his neighborhood was safer. Something I had ordered weeks prior arrived at his house, and he texted me to let me know it had arrived. He offered to bring it by.

Having read the writing on the wall this time, I had all of his things that he left at my house packed up and ready. I didn’t plan to break up with him, but I was going to be prepared if he decided to break up with me. I was still hoping for some kind of answer and a change in his behaviour. Depending on how he handled the conversation I was going to make him have when he dropped off my package, I would either hand him his things or I would quietly unpack them after he left and not even let him know I had packed them..

He chose to come over when he knew I had only a few minutes left to get ready for work. I asked him “so, are we still dating or what?” As soon as he started with “well … you didn’t do anything wrong, it’s just that I’m not fulfilling you, and …” I interrupted him and said “yeah, I figured that’s what you’d say,” and went into the other room to get his things and dropped them at his feet.

I told him that ghosting me was the absolute worst way he could have chosen to break up with me, given that he had done it to me once before and I only got back with him on the condition that he would not break up with me in that way again. He protested, saying that he never ghosted me. I pointed out that he stopped responding to all forms of communication for weeks and he only deigned to speak to me when a package arrived. That’s ghosting.

He said that he just didn’t know what to say or how to do it. I pointed out to him that I’m writing a book on how to ethically breakup with someone and I already have an online document titled my User Manual which gives instructions for exactly how to break up with *me*. Of literally anyone in the world, I’m one of the last people anyone should be confused about how to break up with me. I come with instructions.

I have no doubt that if he hadn’t needed to get my packages to me, I would never have heard from him again unless I chased after him.

So then, while I’m still nursing my hurt feelings over this breakup, a friend who I’ve had a thing for asks me out. I tell him that I’m not in a position for a big-r Relationship because I’m on the rebound and he’s never been in a poly relationship before, but perhaps we could talk about a fling. He says it’s an emotional connection or nothing - no casual sex for him.

So we talk and talk and talk, and eventually decide that we might try some kind of relationship and see where it goes. We have a couple of good dates, and our last one is really hot and heavy. We have so much chemistry between us! We continued texting on the way home and through the night when we got home. I have texts from him that night telling me how hard he’s falling for me and how safe and loved he feels with me.

Literally the next day, he texts me to say his ex wants to talk, do I mind if he goes out with her? I’m poly, so although I’m concerned about an ex, I say he can. He texts me that night to say he wants to have sex with her, do I mind? Again, I’m concerned, but as I’m also working on another FWB of my own, I say OK and thank him for telling me.

The next day, radio silence. He doesn’t respond to any of my messages. The day after, I message him to ask why the radio silence. I can see that he checked the message. After a long pause, he messages back to say that he’s getting back together with the ex and she “won’t have it”, meaning she won’t let him date me too. He has since blocked me from contacting him.

So, yeah, I’ve had lots of people ghost me, or break up with me at points in the relationship that I felt were “midway” or when things were going well, or at least when I felt that things were not at the end. I find it to be one of the most cruel ways to end a relationship with a person and I am permanently scarred from all the times it has happened to me.

This latest one happening on the heels of the one prior to it has triggered my depression again, so now I have to have people check in on me to make sure I’m OK. And all for someone I didn’t even want to get involved with in the first place because I didn’t think either one of us was ready for a relationship.

When people give you that aphorism “when someone tells you who they are, believe them”, believe them. There were plenty of signs, but I keep giving people the benefit of the doubt, and I pay for it every single time.
joreth: (boxed in)
Originally written January 10, 2019.  Archiving here for a record of my depression.

Dancing produces endorphins that, if they don't make the depression go away, at least keep it in a stalemate.

Dancing is also a social activity where I could possibly meet more people, since part of my depression is not having any connections to other people in real life.

But I can't go dancing because I am way past my time for moving out, so I can't justify leaving the house for social events until I move out.

But I can't finish packing because my depression is giving me executive dysfunction.

Not being moved out yet is contributing to my anxiety, which is what made my depression close enough to trigger.

Going dancing and not making those connections because connections take time and I've forgotten how to relate to "regular people" so suddenly I'm socially awkward again like middle school, which is, probably not coincidentally, another time I had major depression, so going dancing and not making the connections I'm looking for make me feel worse when I come home, alone.

Making connections only reminds me that I'm trying to leave the state and I'll have to leave these connections someday soon, which makes me resist making new connections.

Thinking of leaving the state and how my ability to do so is pretty much out of my control, so I might be stuck here for a long time, and that's a long time to not have any real connections so I'm just alone for a long time, which makes the depression worse.

So I should go dancing to try and make some connections.

But I can't go dancing because I have to pack.

OTG I have to pack, there's so much to do, I just can't get started.

But I'm losing my place to live and things are only going to get worse if I don't get out ahead of this problem.

I wish I had someone to go through this with me.

Maybe if I go out dancing, I'll meet some people.

But I'm not good at making connections, as evidenced by the last several social settings where I actively tried.

So I'm just doomed to be alone.

And besides, if I *do* make some connections, I'll just have to leave them behind.

Fuck I'm fucking stuck here and I can't get out.

I should go out and meet people to make it more bearable.

But I can't take the time because I have to pack...

#depression
joreth: (sex)
www.quora.com/If-your-favorite-celebrity-crush-actually-wanted-you-how-would-you-leave-your-spouse-and-how-would-you-trust-this-new-relationship/answer/Joreth-Innkeeper

Q. If your favorite celebrity crush, actually wanted you, how would you leave your spouse, and how would you trust this new relationship?

A.
I wouldn’t leave my spouse or “trust this new relationship”. When one of my celebrity crushes asked me out a few years ago, I called my partner (who was not yet my spouse at that time) up and said “you’ll never guess who just asked me out!” And then I made a date with my crush and we’ve been involved ever since.

I “trust” the new relationship the same way that I “trust” any new relationship. I look into their history and see if anything they tell me is verifiable, and then I also pay attention to see if their actions match their words while we’re together. Over time, I build up trust based on their integrity - how well their word stands up in practice.

So far, everything my celebrity crush has told me about himself has been verified in public interviews so I give him the same benefit of the doubt that I give any new partner unless or until things change.

Should any other “celebrity crush” happen to become aware of my existence and want to be with me (which, given that I work in entertainment, is a possibility), that’ll be handled the same way.
joreth: (being wise)
I used to only be interested in dating men who were already partnered, because it "showed" me that they weren't going to turn into cowboys because they already had other partners. They weren't going to take over my whole life and demand that I be their entire life. They had communication skills. They already knew how to manage their relationships.

After 20 years in the community, I am immediately turned off by any personals ad or "seeking" post from married men.

Men who are actively polyamorous and have (or have had) more partners than just their spouse don't write their posts the same way. I know many married poly men who are open to new connections. There's a *difference* in the way that they present themselves, and I'm still working on how to concisely elucidate that difference, because they sure as hell aren't *concealing* it either.

It's in the way they present themselves as married. For some people, being married is merely one trait among many, and they might refer to "having several partners" where one of those partners happens to be a spouse. But for others, it's like being married is part of their identity description - 45, 5'11, 180 lbs, married, blue eyes.

I'm still not explaining it. I just know that there are several people I know who are married who I would consider getting involved with if the conditions were right for it, but every post I see of a man who would otherwise be within my range of interest, as soon as he says he's married (which is usually right at the top), I'm disinterested and I scroll past.

And making that realization today, and for some reason being reminded that I used to deliberately look for partnered men, the dichotomy just struck me. I'm still dubious of single men, but now I'm dubious of married men too, which means, basically, that I don't trust men.

Which makes it really difficult to be straight.

Regrets

Jul. 18th, 2020 09:53 pm
joreth: (boxed in)
I've made a lot of really bad relationship decisions in my life. And I've made some decisions that resulted in bad things but that genuinely couldn't be predicted would result in the bad thing, so it's not unreasonable that I made that decision at the time.

There aren't that many relationship decisions that, if I were given the key to real time travel, I would really go back in time and change that decision, because I have no way of knowing what the consequence would be, and sometimes I at least learned something or had some good memories in addition to the bad ones.

But I seem to be wracking up the regrets lately. Of the very few relationships that I would genuinely go back and time and erase, the majority of them were among my most recent relationships.

I would erase my time with my abusive ex-fiance back in college. I don't know if I would erase my time with my stalker, but I think I ought to have erased my time *after* my relationship with the stalker, where I maintained a friendship with him for like 10 or 12 years later. Those are way back in my past.

All the rest? Among my last handful. Not all of my last handful, but all the ones I would take back are *among* my last handful.

I clearly need to rethink how I get into relationships and why I make the decisions that I do. After my last abusive ex, my self-esteem took a pretty big hit because I felt that I couldn't trust my own judgement when it came to potential partners. The fact that I don't seem to be getting any better at it even with awareness of the problem isn't helping me at all.
joreth: (BDSM)
I'm reading 19 Weeks, a kinky erotica novel by Franklin Veaux, where a woman suspects her husband of cheating on her, so she tries to catch him in the act, and in the process, discovers that their affair turns her on. But she's still really angry about the cheating, so she finds herself confronting them when she catches them, and instead of automatically threatening him with divorce, she insists that they owe her 19 weeks of catering to her desires since they spent 19 weeks ignoring hers for their own.

The story is an emotional processing of people who make some bad choices whose consequences lead them to a surprisingly functional D/s/s relationship with the woman in charge of her husband and his "concubine", as she ends up being called.

The story is pretty hot, but I'm straight with a slight gay male fetish. So, while re-reading it today, it occurred to me that I could make a few tweaks to the story and get a tale that would appeal more to someone like me.

In my story, the woman suspects her husband of infidelity, and she hides out in the house, waiting to catch him in the act. But what she doesn't realize is that her husband's new lover is another man.

While watching them start to have sex from her hiding place with the camera she's using to collect evidence for the eventual divorce, she discovers that voyeurism of two men gets her really aroused, and through the course of the book, she's forced to confront some of her assumptions about gender roles and orientation now that she recognizes this fetish.

As she is processing her anger and her surprising arousal when she confronts the two men, instead of simply threatening her husband with divorce, she somehow ends up demanding that the two men basically become her sex slaves to make up for the fact that they started their affair with no concern to how their behaviour would affect her.

Never having any experience or exposure to the world of kink, this experiment of hers unlocks desires she didn't even know she had, and leads her to discover kinks and fetishes she never knew existed, as our diminutive protagonist doms the fuck out of two much larger men, who bow to her every wish.

Except ... one time, she makes a mistake and crosses a line. As newbies will while they learn themselves and everyone's limits. She crosses a line and, overwhelmed with all these new conflicting feelings of shame, resentment, guilt, and a surprising desire for being dominated, the men rebel at their captor and collaborate to take her down - in a scene that both frighten and arouse everyone with its intensity of pleasurable feelings.

As she discovers a new kink she not only didn't know she had but would have been horrified to think anyone could actually *like* engaging in only a few weeks before, she decides to include this new activity of the men ganging up on her into their new routine ... except it will be done at *her* pleasure from now on, as she discovers a new vocab phrase - topping from the bottom.

What will happen after the time limit is up and everyone has served their time? Will she release them and the men go off together, without her? Will she try to "save her marriage" and go back to the way things used to be once their debt is paid, leaving the Other Man discarded and alone? Or will the three of them find a balance point, now that they know that this kind of arrangement can even exist, let alone work out?

I'm sure anyone reading this can guess where I would take this story if I were writing it.

Unfortunately, I am a pretty good writer, but erotica is not my area of expertise. I would love to read this book, though.

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