joreth: (being wise)
*Sigh*  Normally I have no problem blocking people who are becoming a pain in the ass, but when it's a *friend* who says *several times* that he will back out of an argument and then refuses to do so, sometimes I have to hang up the phone for him.  But I'd rather not, and it hurts to do it.

I already know that when I lose my temper, I'll say things that I will later regret.  So when I back out of an argument, I back out.  I know that I can't be trusted to have a productive conversation when I'm too emotionally invested in my position to really hear the other side.   If you have the foresight to know that about yourself too, then seriously, back out when you say you're going to.  Because I guarantee, no matter what the person on the other side of the argument is like, you will only make things worse if you stay in an argument past the point that even you recognize that you need to take a break from it.

The other person could be the best, most calm and collected arguer ever, or they could be a total douchebag, and either way, if you're not in the right emotional space for the argument, anything you say is going to make things worse.  Which is why I back out when I'm getting pissed off.  Unfortunately, though, online spaces don't offer very good ways to "back out" and they rely on the other person's cooperation or nuking them.

I wish FB had an option to just, say, put someone in a time-out.  I mean, I know that you can unblock people later, but it's so ... final, so harsh.  Maybe I just want to stop someone from talking at me for a while.  It's like, if you're in an argument with someone in person, you can leave the room.  But if you're in an argument with someone at a *party*, then you have to either leave the party to prevent them from following you around the party to continue arguing or kick them out of the party.

Sometimes, neither is an acceptable option for the circumstances.  Sometimes, I just want someone to stop talking at me while I go into the "quiet room" at the party, or go talk with someone else on the other side of the room.  I can turn off FB for a while and let them rant and rave at an empty inbox, but then I can't wander around FB.  That's me leaving the party.  Besides, then they're still ranting and raving and those messages will be there when I get back.  Leaving might prevent *me* from saying something I don't want to say, but it doesn't make someone else take the space they need but won't take.  And obviously I can't kick *them* off FB (nor would I want to).

Unfriending & unfollowing aren't always the right options either.  When the problem is that someone I know posts shit that I don't want to see, then those are two reasonable options.  But when the problem is that someone keeps talking at me, unfriending and unfollowing don't prevent that.  I don't necessarily want to stop seeing *them*, nor do I necessarily want them to stop seeing *me*.  I want them to lose the ability to contact me for the moment, either DM or comments or tagging me.

And, maybe I don't *want* to actually unfriend someone.   I grew up understanding that friends and family argue sometimes, and it's not the end of the relationship.  Sometimes those arguments are some pretty ugly fights, even, and it still doesn't mean that the relationship *has* to end over it.

I've been reading some stuff (citations not at hand atm, but check out The Gottman Institute for more on that) that suggests that there is a point in an argument at which nothing productive is happening because the participants are "flooded", meaning too emotional, and taking a break at that point significantly increases the chances of a resolution post-break.  My family did this intuitively.  I think it's one of the reasons why I maintain such strong emotional ties to members of my family who have such different worldviews from me.

Sometimes I just don't want to be in *this* argument right *now* and the other person doesn't seem to have the self-control to stop arguing.  But, for whatever reason, I don't want to nuke the relationship.  It would be nice to have, like, a 24-hour Wall of Silence, where neither of us can message each other or comment on each other's posts, until we've both had some space and time to calm down.   But, y'know, you're still friends, and maybe you can even still see each other's posts and still interact in groups or mutual friends' comment threads.  You just can't PM them or talk *in their space*.

But as long as people can't seem to help themselves and continue talking at others past the point where even they recognize that they are not in the right frame of mind to be continuing the conversation, I have to resort to blocking.

And I don't like that.   There's not enough nuance in our online responses, and I think that hurts us individually and as communities.

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