joreth: (Super Tech)
With billboards and commercials aimed at low-income populations to try and correct some of their low-income problems, it surprises me how few people know that vasectomies are available for a reasonable price.

One of the many, many problems contributing to poverty is the difficulty in regulating the size of the family. When people don't have money for healthcare, people don't know how to control the size of their families, and in a post-agricultural society, children are no longer assets, but liabilities.

So it benefits both the individual family and the governmental agencies aimed at providing assistance (and therefore the taxpayers who contribute) to offer low-cost options to help limit procreation. This is why Planned Parenthood just gives out condoms for free (preventing disease follows the same benefits).

But female sterilization is complicated and expensive because of the intrusive nature of the surgery.

Male sterilization is much more simple, easier on the patient and the doctor, and cheaper. Plus, a single male can produce more offspring than a single female. So it should be obvious that it is in the government's best interest to offer low-cost/free vasectomies.

And, coincidentally, the government health agencies and other socially-conscious agencies agree!

So I'm posting a few links to a few resources here in the Orlando area for low-cost vasectomy options, much like I have posted in the past for low-cost STD testing options. For people who are not in the Orlando area, hopefully this will at least make people aware of the option and do some research in their own areas.

http://www.vasweb.com/Vasectomy/Kissimmee_PCC.htm - $490 no-needle, no-scalpel
http://www.ppgo.org/clinic/vasectomy - $350 - $1000 depending on local Planned Parenthood office, plus many offer cost on a sliding-scale.
http://www.doh.state.fl.us/family/famplan/whatsright.html#ms - I can't find cost info at the website, but I did send an email asking for more information.  However, the county also offers vasectomy services and they're typically low-cost because that's their target audience.  I'll update that when I get a response.

So, there ya go men, it's cheaper, simpler, and safer for men to get vasectomies and there are low-cost options available everywhere.  And if $500 is a steep price to pay, I'm going to suggest that the cost of an abortion or raising an unplanned kid isn't any cheaper (for the record, an abortion in Orlando costs roughly $450 or more and is only available at 2 locations).

Of course, vasectomies are not the answer for everyone.  Most people want to have children someday, just not today, and there are lots of temporary preventative measures available that I'll be happy to talk about elsewhere. 

But, for the men who are done having children or who never want to have children, a vasectomy is a pretty reliable method that a person only has to do once and he never has to worry about it breaking or whether his female partner is keeping up with her method of birth control.


**Some of you may have noticed that I tagged this with my STI tag.  Of course, pregnancy isn't an infection, but I'm pretty firmly on the position that an unwanted parasite could fall under the umbrella of sexually-transmitted illnesses for the practical purposes of Things To Avoid That Are Caused By Sex and is usually included in safe-sex agreements, the likes of which include things like "don't bring anything home that you can't take back"**

Date: 7/3/09 03:53 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] corpsefairy.livejournal.com
It depends on your area. Have you contacted your local Planned Parenthood? I had my tubes tied through them when I was 24, and I was low-income enough that my tubal turned out to be free. They gave me no hassle about it whatsoever - no "you're too young" or "you'll change your mind" or anything. I'll love them forever for that.

Date: 7/3/09 04:29 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] kauainightdrive.livejournal.com
I have heard that's the case for some places, like Oregon. It's enough to make me want to move to oregon for 6 months to get the surgery done. I live in Florida. Not a liberal state.

If I was going to do this surgery, I'd go to Orlando, where my family lives so that I could have some one to watch over me after the surgery. This places me right where Joreth is. If they wouldn't do it for her, they wouldn't do it for me. But its true--I haven't actually asked.

Date: 7/3/09 07:25 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] kauainightdrive.livejournal.com
I also do physically demanding work--I work on organic farms. I'm also car-free, meaning I cycle everywhere. That's why I'd have to go home to my families. I couldn't go back to work until I was healed from the surgery. Ironically, my family would never support my decision to have tubal ligation.

I'm actually about to go home for a visit on Monday. Maybe I'll just get my papsmear there and discuss the ligation cost and process then.

Date: 7/3/09 08:02 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
This gives me visions of an underground railroad for sterilization. It wouldn't even need to be underground. But transport people in, get them fixed, give them some help for a bit while they heal and send them back to their non-liberal states.

It'd be awesome if there were people doing this.

Date: 7/3/09 08:20 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] kauainightdrive.livejournal.com
Dude, what an amazing idea. What if we expanded this for abortion services as well? You know how some states only have 1 or abortion clinics. There could a be a web of craiglist type rideshares and couchsurfing type couches set up for women who needed a way to get to the clinic and a place to stay during the mandatory waiting period, or whatever. Or if like, you're in a state with a mandatory waiting period and the state next to you doesn't have one.

We should set up a website for this. I'm not even joking. I'm seriously going to look into making this sorta thing happen, if there isn't already something similar happening.

I think this is a fucking fantastic idea.

Date: 7/3/09 08:26 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
I think that'd be incredibly wonderful, and I think it'd be fantastic if you worked on it.

Ideas are easy. Actually making things happen is hard. Unfortunately, I know my limits. I can't make this happen. I'm severely disabled and this is the sort of project that would require energy, organization, and repeated effort. I'd make a mess of it. But if you can get people involved who actually are competent, it'd be wonderful.

Pretty much the best I do is to try to vote for positive changes.

Date: 7/3/09 07:33 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] kauainightdrive.livejournal.com
I also also extremely bitter on this topic, and I'm only 24.

My family places extreme pressure on me to get married and have kids. They can't seem to decide if I'm "wasting my best years" or "too young to know my own mind." My grandmother, for example, tells me how "Old" I am getting by telling me about how she had all 3 of her children by the time she was my age. Then she'll turn around and tell me that my lackluster interest in marriage or children is a "phase" I will outgrow. Drives me fucking NUTS. Am I kid or an old maid???

And I've never even TRIED to discuss the fact that I prefer non-hetero-normative relationships. I have no biological sex preference, but I have a preference for a little gender-fucking in my fucking, ya know? Sometimes I fantasize about bring a-not-completely-transitioned FTM home or an male-bodied person who likes to cross dress home and telling them I'm getting married. I will never, never do this. But man, I can just imagine the look on their faces.....

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