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=====bugrub wrote=====
I just bought an M-8 Leica and their new tri-elmarit. I just love to photo the ladies. <smile>
Anyhow here's the canned speech....you can pick it apart:
You would never find a better more honest friend, lover, husband. How do I know that? Because I have two wives and I'm looking for a third. That's getting the 500 pound gorilla out of the way up front and being honest isn't it?
What do you suppose type of man I am? One you should avoid or embrace? Well I'm not a dishrag. I appreciate intelligent physically strong females because they make the best babies and I'm all about family and yes I can afford three wives.
Well you have a choice to ignore or explore. I expect everything and ask for nothing. Consequently I'm unable to place you in an akward position. You might just be curious....if so please feel free to write. I won't bite and you can always use me for a topic of conversation. "I actually correspond with a polygamist from Florida on a regular basis!!!" <smile>
Looking forward to your reply........C. Smith (real name)
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Wow, I haven't heard a more offensive email in a long time, and I get all kinds of offensive emails. First of all, I don't rank my partners so it would be impossible for you to be "better" than any of them and I find that extremely arrogant of you to assume you could be and incredibly rude to belittle my current partners as not as good as you. Second of all, I don't believe in marriage. Third of all, I am Childfree By Choice and therefore won't be producing any babies for you or anyone else, and I am extremely offended at your implication that a woman's purpose in this day and age is for making babies or that intelligence and physical strength have anything to do with the reproductive system, which can be healthy or not healthy totally independent from her ability to do calculus or bench press 100 pounds. The "best babies"?!? Omigod I don't even know where to begin with that phrase!! Fourth, I'm offended that you can "afford" three wives. I expect to be an equal contributor in all of my partnerships and I expect my partners' other partners to also be equal contributors. I am not a concubine or part of a harem, I am an independent individual. Fifth, I currently have several long-term committed partners and my romantic connections come as a part of me. The words you use are very similar to a "couple looking for a third to complete us" type, who generally expect the new person to be single and have no other relationships outside of the "family". You may or may not expect your third wife to come alone, but your words imply that you do and I find that extremely offensive because my other partners are NOT disposable or irreplaceable. Perhaps you'll have better luck in the Fundamental Mormon community.
?!?!?!?! Check out his profile: http://www.okcupid.com/profile?u=bugrub
ARGH!
But wait! There's more!
Date: 2/16/07 10:31 pm (UTC)From:Slow down there Pilgrim,
Don't get yourself in a tizzy.
Allow me to respond to what is a very expansive if somewhat inaccurate representation of our reality.
First your high compatibility score would alone indicate we must think somewhat alike.
Do you mind if I write between your lines?
=====Joreth wrote=====
Wow, I haven't heard a more offensive email in a long time, and I get all kinds of offensive emails. First of all, I don't rank my partners so it would be impossible for you to be "better" than any of them and I find that extremely arrogant of you to assume you could be and incredibly rude to belittle my current partners as not as good as you.
I don't know your partners hell we might hit it off. Do you know them well enough to speak for them.....seems pretty presumtuous to me.
Second of all, I don't believe in marriage.
To me it is a piece of paper. I don't like government telling me what to do....come to think of it I don't like anybody telling me what to do and marraige is a civil institution. It's just a term like wife. Would you say that Hugh Hefner or Clint Eastwood are polygamous because they have extended families. I would be interested to know if you grew up in a nuclear family and who if anyone had the last word or who was the desciplinarian. And why all the vitriol.....did someone do you wrong?
Shit all I'm trying to do is make a family not force anybody to do anything. My alternative lifstyle is just as valid as yours and I can have as many "girlfrinds" as I want I would just choose to be emotionally closer to my women friends than most men....that's all.
Third of all, I am Childfree By Choice and therefore won't be producing any babies for you or anyone else, and I am extremely offended at your implication that a woman's purpose in this day and age is for making babies or that intelligence and physical strength have anything to do with the reproductive system, which can be healthy or not healthy totally independent from her ability to do calculus or bench press 100 pounds. The "best babies"?!? Omigod I don't even know where to begin with that phrase!!
OK lets look at it from the obverse side. May I assume that you never read the 750 pages of The Bell Curve by Herrenstein and Murray? Anyhow qould you rather your never gonna be here baby have a father with a high or a low IQ, all things being equal? Hell I'm an old guy. That's a disadvantage but it's offset by my other wonderful and exciting points.
Fourth, I'm offended that you can "afford" three wives.
You are missing the point. When we all pull together the benefits are awsome both emotionally and economically. Some "independent" person could never achieve the same level of contentment and security unless they were a monk and then they would have the whole Catholic church behind them BUT NO FREEDOM AND NO SEX!
I expect to be an equal contributor in all of my partnerships and I expect my partners' other partners to also be an equal contributor. I am not a concubine or part of a harem, I am an independent individual.
That kind of independence is cool but why is it so important to you not to make a committment? Your internal walls must be very high and very thick. What exactly are you trying to protect yourself against?
Fifth, I currently have several long-term committed partners and my romantic connections come as a part of me. The words you use are very similar to a "couple looking for a third to complete us" type, who generally expect the new person to be single and have no other relationships outside of the "family".
Everyone brings what they can to the table and for some people their passion is their art or their music or their career or sex. We would except anybody but actually we want more women in order to have more children all around. I understand it's not your bag but if you look at it from that prespective it's going to be different than if you drop children from the mix. I assume you were raised by your mother and abused by men at some point in your life and you don't want to subject children to what you went through. Maybe I'm wrong.....you can correct me if you wish.
Continued
Date: 2/16/07 10:32 pm (UTC)From:You may or may not expect your third wife to come alone, but your words imply that you do and I find that extremely offensive because my other partners are NOT disposable or irreplaceable. Perhaps you'll have better luck in the Fundamental Mormon community.
Don't suscribe to any organized religion. I think if you want answers you need to look inside yourself. I would suggest concentrating on the reptilian brain ( that's the old one where anger and hatred and jealousy and religion live ). I like working on and with my elegant new logical brain!
Nice talking with you or at you as the case may be. Aern't these things fun!
Your Old Friend Clayton
========My Response=========
Yes I mind if you write between my lines. I don't want you between anything of mine.
You're a prick. Yes, I know my partners well enough to speak for them on this case. It's a benefit of having mutliple intimate connections. And yes someone did me wrong, assholes like you who find me online and waste my time. I'm not saying your "lifestyle" isn't valid, I'm saying you are offensive to me. I read the Bell Curve back in high school. The rest of that paragraph I can't understand for the poor grammar and spelling. Indepdenence is not negatively corrolated to committment. I have wonderfully deep committments that include independence and individuality. The fact that you don't understand that speaks volumes of how you see your partners. It is not a "thick wall" or a protection, it's a healthy idea that I am not a partial human being, only completed by another person.
AND YOU ARE A FUCKING ASSHOLE to make any assumptions about my home life. I was NOT raised by my mother or abused by men. GODDAMN IMBICILIC FUCKWAD. I don't want kids cuz I don't like kids. Period. I didn't think it was possible for you to offend me further, but you succeeded.
No, these correspondences are not fun, they're a waste of my time.
NOW FUCK OFF and find some brainless twit to add to your harem you mysogynistic patriarchal antiquated asshat.
Re: Continued
Date: 2/17/07 12:45 am (UTC)From:I was abused. I want to have children. I think I can do better than my childhood.
I know several people who were and weren't abused. I know several people who do and don't want to have children. I'm not aware of any correlation, and making assumptions about whether someone was abused as a child... jeez... that just is so massively offensive.