Same Sex Ballroom Dancing
Jun. 7th, 2009 07:53 pmAs everyone here by now should know, I'm seriously interested in anything ballroom dancing, but also interested in many other styles of dance. I watch Dancing With The Stars, but I don't follow So You Think You Can Dance, although I like the show.
So You Think You Can Dance is another "reality-competition" show, but unlike Dancing With The Stars, the competitors are all already very good and/or professional dancers. This is not ballroom, this is a very wide variety of dancing to pick the best all-around dancer. Dancers from every discipline come to compete against each other and there's some pretty amazing stuff. The one season I actually watched all the way through, a world-class swing dance champ got on the show for his swing dancing abilities, but he won because he was able to learn hip hop, jazz, contemporary, musical-theatre, latin, and a whole bunch of other styles. I've seen some fantastic tap dancers, hip hop dancers, break dancers, "lockers", jazz dancers, ballet dancers, ballroom dancers, and many other styles that I can't even think of right now.
But, ballroom really holds my heart when it comes to dancing, so I just don't keep up with this show like I do with the other one. However, a few days ago, I was sharing a mutual love of dance with my ex,
sterlingsilver9, who prefers the calibre of dancers on SYTYCD, as opposed to the really-good-but-still-amateurish dancing of DWTS. It's the beginning of the season, and we watched the auditions. I saw some fantastic dancers, and I was shown just a glimpse of some pretty bad dancers (fortunately, SYTYCD doesn't reward the bad dancing with a lot of airtime, unlike American Idol and their bad singing auditions).
Near the end of the episode, we were introduced to Mitch, a latin ballroom dancer who is impatiently pacing outside the restroom, waiting for his partner. Of course, the lead up is for the show to make it all the more shocking when his partner walks out of ... the men's room.
Mitch and his partner Misha are competitive same-sex ballroom dancers. Misha is gay and Mitch is straight. I'm not entirely sure about Misha, but Mitch had a female partner once upon a time, and when that relationship did not work out, he agreed to partner with Misha in order to continue dancing and competing.
Now, same-sex ballroom dancing isn't actually all that revolutionary. It's still not nearly as common as traditional ballroom dancing, but it's a whole *thing*, like being taught at studios and it has its own competitions and stuff. Outside of the dance world, I wouldn't expect people to have heard of it, but within the dance world, if *I've* heard of it, it ain't that new.
So, the reason for the journal entry is because of the judges reactions. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the judge who also happens to be a ballroom dancer would have difficulty with same-sex ballroom dancing, because ballroom dancing *does* enforce some pretty strict roles (at least in competition ... in social dancing, it's not that unusual to see girls dancing with girls and people taking the "opposite" role to teach, etc.). But I was surprised at the judge who came across with a very "alternative" personality having any sort of issue. I mean, she sat there with a mohawk and facial piercings and a bright pink, flowery top that looked like someone hacked off the taffeta skirt from a 1983 prom dress, complete with puffy shoulders. And the fact that all 3 judges have spent their entire lives in the entertainment industry, dancing specifically, you'd think they would have learned at least a little bit of comfort around homosexuality and/or gender roles.
But, no. All 3 judges were so completely flumoxed by two men dancing together that they couldn't even judge their dancing technique.
Let me say that again. 3 professional dance judges were so distracted by the contestants' gender that they could not even focus on their dancing technique.
This is absolutely unacceptable.
They tried, but they all admitted to getting too hung up on the dancers' genders to adequately judge them and all 3 needed to see them dance with women in order to give them a "fair" critique. I was particularly incensed at Nigel's comment at the very end, when they asked the dancers to stick around for the choreography section and recommended dancing with female partners, when he said "You never know, you might enjoy that!"
And, I have to admit that I am just plain old surprised to hear professional judges, all of them, admitting to never having ever seen same-sex partner dancing and it being so unusual and so contrary to their own preferences that it interfered with their judging abilities. I'll let Greta Christina rant about that part, though, since she does such a good job of pointing out the extremely well-known (in pro dance circles) choreographer who specialized in playing with gender roles. Hell, has none of them ever even seen Victor Victoria with Julie Andrews? Or what about the famous Trocadero Men's Ballet (for whom I was their Master Electrician when they came to Clearwater)?
These two men weren't doing anything overtly sexual in their dancing, they were wearing pretty standard male dance outfits and nothing was amis that I could see. They were good dancers, but they did mess up on a trick and fall. But what really makes them stand out is that they switched back and forth between the lead and the follow positions within the same routine.
Let me explain a little what that means to non-dancers reading this. The "lead" position is traditionally the male's dance steps and postures, while the "follow" position traditionally belongs to the female. In many of the steps, the lead and follow mirror each other. Which means, the lead faces the follow, and when the lead steps forward on his left foot, the follow steps backwards on her right foot. All the steps are measured out so that when one person does something, the other person does the mirror step at exactly the right moment and in exactly the right place.
There's more to it, of course, but just imagine marching backwards in a straight line ... left, right, left, right, left, right. Keep on beat. Now imagine spinning around to face the exact opposite direction while still maintaining the same beat so that you're now marching forward, left, right, left, right. Now imagine spinning around to face the opposite direction while maintaining the beat, only when you face the opposite direction, whatever foot you would have put down, now the opposite foot has to go down ... all without messing up the spin or the beat.
That's, essentially, what these men where doing.
I'm classified as, more or less, a beginning-intermediate dancer. Mostly this means that I've learned a lot of steps, but I don't remember them because I don't practice them, and I still have a lot of work to go on my posture and hand movements. But it also means that I've learned a lot of different dances in a lot of different rhythms and a handful of steps of each one. I often take beginning classes as a refresher, but because it's a reminder for me, I pick up the steps almost immediately and usually end up showing other people who are taking longer to catch on.
As a result, I've also learned the "lead" role for several dances. At Frolicon, I took a swing dance class, and, again, it was a little too basic for me, so when the instructor was an hour late and his assistant (who had no teaching experience) tried to fill in, I ended up dancing the "lead" role for her to demonstrate to the rest of the class. I then went around and showed people one-on-one how to do the steps.
First I showed one person the "follow" steps, then I repeated the move with the "lead" steps to show the other person. Then, when I had them dance together, I usually danced next to them, in the role of the person who was having more trouble in that couple.
Every single time, between switching roles, I would have to stop and think a moment to remember which role I was supposed to be performing and which foot started the step for that role. It's fricken hard!
So I have nothing but respect for these two men, fall notwithstanding, for the elevated degree of difficulty and the courage to challenge gender roles on national television.
This just absolutely pisses me off that the judges had such a hard time critiquing their dance technique for the sole reason that they couldn't get over the fact that both competitors were male. I understand that I'm a little unusual in that, when I see two men dancing together, it doesn't twig any response from me other than a critque of their dancing abilities in general. It does, however, look a little wierd for me to see two women together, but that's my sexual preference showing through and I'm totally able to ignore that and look at the dancing. Surely I, a straight female and very amateur dancer, can't possibly be more professional and better able to judge a dance couple over my own personal sexual preference and orientation than 3 highly trained dancers and professional judges with years of experience and exposure to the entertainment field?
Here is the clip from the show, complete with the horribly anti-gay comments from the judges. And, before anyone makes any smartass comments about the "feminine" or "gay" movements of either men, I want to point out that exaggerated hip movements and extended hand gestures are typical for the MASCULINE role in latin dances. In countries that were not founded by puritans, hips and hand gestures like these are considered signs of masculinity and virility in males and are ultra-macho.
Here are Mitch & Misha dancing together without falling, but this is not the routine they did on the show.
Now, for some other examples of same-sex dancing:
Two men lindy-hoping
Same Sex Women's Tango Competition
2008 Men's Latin Championships
Men's Waltz Liberty Dance Challenge 2007
Interview with 2 female Same-Sex Dance Champions
Female Samba
A tongue-in-cheek male dance
So You Think You Can Dance is another "reality-competition" show, but unlike Dancing With The Stars, the competitors are all already very good and/or professional dancers. This is not ballroom, this is a very wide variety of dancing to pick the best all-around dancer. Dancers from every discipline come to compete against each other and there's some pretty amazing stuff. The one season I actually watched all the way through, a world-class swing dance champ got on the show for his swing dancing abilities, but he won because he was able to learn hip hop, jazz, contemporary, musical-theatre, latin, and a whole bunch of other styles. I've seen some fantastic tap dancers, hip hop dancers, break dancers, "lockers", jazz dancers, ballet dancers, ballroom dancers, and many other styles that I can't even think of right now.
But, ballroom really holds my heart when it comes to dancing, so I just don't keep up with this show like I do with the other one. However, a few days ago, I was sharing a mutual love of dance with my ex,
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Near the end of the episode, we were introduced to Mitch, a latin ballroom dancer who is impatiently pacing outside the restroom, waiting for his partner. Of course, the lead up is for the show to make it all the more shocking when his partner walks out of ... the men's room.
Mitch and his partner Misha are competitive same-sex ballroom dancers. Misha is gay and Mitch is straight. I'm not entirely sure about Misha, but Mitch had a female partner once upon a time, and when that relationship did not work out, he agreed to partner with Misha in order to continue dancing and competing.
Now, same-sex ballroom dancing isn't actually all that revolutionary. It's still not nearly as common as traditional ballroom dancing, but it's a whole *thing*, like being taught at studios and it has its own competitions and stuff. Outside of the dance world, I wouldn't expect people to have heard of it, but within the dance world, if *I've* heard of it, it ain't that new.
So, the reason for the journal entry is because of the judges reactions. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the judge who also happens to be a ballroom dancer would have difficulty with same-sex ballroom dancing, because ballroom dancing *does* enforce some pretty strict roles (at least in competition ... in social dancing, it's not that unusual to see girls dancing with girls and people taking the "opposite" role to teach, etc.). But I was surprised at the judge who came across with a very "alternative" personality having any sort of issue. I mean, she sat there with a mohawk and facial piercings and a bright pink, flowery top that looked like someone hacked off the taffeta skirt from a 1983 prom dress, complete with puffy shoulders. And the fact that all 3 judges have spent their entire lives in the entertainment industry, dancing specifically, you'd think they would have learned at least a little bit of comfort around homosexuality and/or gender roles.
But, no. All 3 judges were so completely flumoxed by two men dancing together that they couldn't even judge their dancing technique.
Let me say that again. 3 professional dance judges were so distracted by the contestants' gender that they could not even focus on their dancing technique.
This is absolutely unacceptable.
They tried, but they all admitted to getting too hung up on the dancers' genders to adequately judge them and all 3 needed to see them dance with women in order to give them a "fair" critique. I was particularly incensed at Nigel's comment at the very end, when they asked the dancers to stick around for the choreography section and recommended dancing with female partners, when he said "You never know, you might enjoy that!"
And, I have to admit that I am just plain old surprised to hear professional judges, all of them, admitting to never having ever seen same-sex partner dancing and it being so unusual and so contrary to their own preferences that it interfered with their judging abilities. I'll let Greta Christina rant about that part, though, since she does such a good job of pointing out the extremely well-known (in pro dance circles) choreographer who specialized in playing with gender roles. Hell, has none of them ever even seen Victor Victoria with Julie Andrews? Or what about the famous Trocadero Men's Ballet (for whom I was their Master Electrician when they came to Clearwater)?
These two men weren't doing anything overtly sexual in their dancing, they were wearing pretty standard male dance outfits and nothing was amis that I could see. They were good dancers, but they did mess up on a trick and fall. But what really makes them stand out is that they switched back and forth between the lead and the follow positions within the same routine.
Let me explain a little what that means to non-dancers reading this. The "lead" position is traditionally the male's dance steps and postures, while the "follow" position traditionally belongs to the female. In many of the steps, the lead and follow mirror each other. Which means, the lead faces the follow, and when the lead steps forward on his left foot, the follow steps backwards on her right foot. All the steps are measured out so that when one person does something, the other person does the mirror step at exactly the right moment and in exactly the right place.
There's more to it, of course, but just imagine marching backwards in a straight line ... left, right, left, right, left, right. Keep on beat. Now imagine spinning around to face the exact opposite direction while still maintaining the same beat so that you're now marching forward, left, right, left, right. Now imagine spinning around to face the opposite direction while maintaining the beat, only when you face the opposite direction, whatever foot you would have put down, now the opposite foot has to go down ... all without messing up the spin or the beat.
That's, essentially, what these men where doing.
I'm classified as, more or less, a beginning-intermediate dancer. Mostly this means that I've learned a lot of steps, but I don't remember them because I don't practice them, and I still have a lot of work to go on my posture and hand movements. But it also means that I've learned a lot of different dances in a lot of different rhythms and a handful of steps of each one. I often take beginning classes as a refresher, but because it's a reminder for me, I pick up the steps almost immediately and usually end up showing other people who are taking longer to catch on.
As a result, I've also learned the "lead" role for several dances. At Frolicon, I took a swing dance class, and, again, it was a little too basic for me, so when the instructor was an hour late and his assistant (who had no teaching experience) tried to fill in, I ended up dancing the "lead" role for her to demonstrate to the rest of the class. I then went around and showed people one-on-one how to do the steps.
First I showed one person the "follow" steps, then I repeated the move with the "lead" steps to show the other person. Then, when I had them dance together, I usually danced next to them, in the role of the person who was having more trouble in that couple.
Every single time, between switching roles, I would have to stop and think a moment to remember which role I was supposed to be performing and which foot started the step for that role. It's fricken hard!
So I have nothing but respect for these two men, fall notwithstanding, for the elevated degree of difficulty and the courage to challenge gender roles on national television.
This just absolutely pisses me off that the judges had such a hard time critiquing their dance technique for the sole reason that they couldn't get over the fact that both competitors were male. I understand that I'm a little unusual in that, when I see two men dancing together, it doesn't twig any response from me other than a critque of their dancing abilities in general. It does, however, look a little wierd for me to see two women together, but that's my sexual preference showing through and I'm totally able to ignore that and look at the dancing. Surely I, a straight female and very amateur dancer, can't possibly be more professional and better able to judge a dance couple over my own personal sexual preference and orientation than 3 highly trained dancers and professional judges with years of experience and exposure to the entertainment field?
Here is the clip from the show, complete with the horribly anti-gay comments from the judges. And, before anyone makes any smartass comments about the "feminine" or "gay" movements of either men, I want to point out that exaggerated hip movements and extended hand gestures are typical for the MASCULINE role in latin dances. In countries that were not founded by puritans, hips and hand gestures like these are considered signs of masculinity and virility in males and are ultra-macho.
Here are Mitch & Misha dancing together without falling, but this is not the routine they did on the show.
Now, for some other examples of same-sex dancing:
Two men lindy-hoping
Same Sex Women's Tango Competition
2008 Men's Latin Championships
Men's Waltz Liberty Dance Challenge 2007
Interview with 2 female Same-Sex Dance Champions
Female Samba
A tongue-in-cheek male dance